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messages sent TO or CC me (gmail account, IMAP in Tbird) that I move to project file are deleted when I clean out my SENT messages folder - big problem!!

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wbausch
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I'm using Thunderbird 52.7.0 32-bit with my gmail accounts. I like to clean out my sent messages periodically. I noticed that large groups of messages that should have been filed in project folder(s) were missing - I had been moved them from my inbox to the folder(s) and everything seemed to be fine. Until I cleaned out the SENT messages. Is this related to GMAIL's 'feature' of showing everything including my 'sent' message in a thread, and clobbering the entire thread when saying delete from the regular gmail interface (not Thunderbird)? I hate to think that I can never delete sent messages to clean out my data storage! A work-around might be to move the 'sent' message to the Tbird Inbox and then move the entire thread to my project folder ... but that seems like a lot of extra housekeeping. Thanks for any suggestions. Bill

I'm using Thunderbird 52.7.0 32-bit with my gmail accounts. I like to clean out my sent messages periodically. I noticed that large groups of messages that should have been filed in project folder(s) were missing - I had been moved them from my inbox to the folder(s) and everything seemed to be fine. Until I cleaned out the SENT messages. Is this related to GMAIL's 'feature' of showing everything including my 'sent' message in a thread, and clobbering the entire thread when saying delete from the regular gmail interface (not Thunderbird)? I hate to think that I can never delete sent messages to clean out my data storage! A work-around might be to move the 'sent' message to the Tbird Inbox and then move the entire thread to my project folder ... but that seems like a lot of extra housekeeping. Thanks for any suggestions. Bill

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I don't why you would be deleting the Sent messages. Why don't you just move them into the project folder, so you keep a full record of the conversation? I do this all the time (I aim to keep both Inbox and Sent folders empty) with no data loss.

Essentially, gmail keeps a single copy of any message, and labels it to control what folders it appears in. So if not done right, a deletion could remove it entirely.

I don't often recommend this, but looking into the All Mail folder might help you recover these.

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Matt
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where is your "project folder" if in local folders the move is an implicit delete from gmail.

wbausch
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Please advise if the following means that these are "local folders" - and if so what I should change. Folders hang off the wbausch@gmail.com account, which is configured as IMAP in Thunderbird. I can access the messages in folders/subfolders via gmail online. Screen grab of Thunderbird folders is attached. Thanks.

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I don't why you would be deleting the Sent messages. Why don't you just move them into the project folder, so you keep a full record of the conversation? I do this all the time (I aim to keep both Inbox and Sent folders empty) with no data loss.

Essentially, gmail keeps a single copy of any message, and labels it to control what folders it appears in. So if not done right, a deletion could remove it entirely.

I don't often recommend this, but looking into the All Mail folder might help you recover these.