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How can I support your product when your company rejects diversity of thought?

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Because of the bigotry and intolerance behind the pressure on Brendan Eich causing his resignation I can no longer use or support Mozilla products.

Because of the bigotry and intolerance behind the pressure on Brendan Eich causing his resignation I can no longer use or support Mozilla products.

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Since you may not know what really happened due to how you posted Please see

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Eich was driven out by hostile sentiment both from within Mozilla as well as from without. See the following article from The New Yorker.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/04/how-mozilla-lost-its-ceo-brendan-eich.html

Imagine the outcry if he had been asked to step down as CEO because he supported gay marriage? In the face of such intolerance I believe he did the right thing to sever all ties.

Again, I cannot support a company that is intolerant of someone just for holding a contrary view. Like Eich, severing ties seems the appropriate action.

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hello, this article nearly gets it right, though i would certainly not count public petitions and calls for boycott as part of the mozilla community.
within mozilla only a handful of employees (literally five out of 1000) asked brendan to step down - the vast majority supported brendan (also publicly in blog entries, twitter etc. - this of course gets seldom picked up by the press). i hope you can appreciate this openness and diversity of thought that is possible within mozilla. employees are encouraged to speak up and are also able to voice critical views against the organisation publicly, not something that you would find at many other organizations.

there was mild criticism from within amongst overwhelming support, but that certainly didn't drive brendan out - it have been the constant bombardment, threads and mischaracterization of him as a person and the whole mozilla community that lead him to his personal decision to step down for his and his families sake and to avert further damage from mozilla.

so in this sad process we have lost a co-founder and brilliant technical mind and now the misinformation and rushing to judgement is coming from the "other side"...

since this venue is a primarily community run support forum, intended to provide technical support for Mozilla products, it's not the right place to have discussions around policy issues and i'm going to close this thread. if you still have concerns on the subject that you want to discuss, please take them to the mozilla governance mailing list located at https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance instead.

thank you!

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Surely any hostile environment is external voices and external media. Instead of relying on Media reports why not read the articles linked in the post above, one is from Eich himself, the other is from a prominent Mozilla person with very similar views to Eich that are very public.

Have you thought, you yourself are; possibly inadvertantly; contributing to pressure on Mozilla to be intolerant, and select staff based on their views, because you do not look at Mozilla's policies, aims, and comments direct from those involved. You look at media reports. Many news items may be open to an individual reader's own interpretation. Some of us may take the view that the most newsworthy and popular items are the sensational ones, not necessarily the most accurate ones.

If; as appears to be the case; you believe the fault is with those running Mozilla Firefox and the management structure and policies then you would do better posting on and reading posts in the governance mailing list. Not on a technical support forum, for end users where nearly all answers come from other Firefox users.

Post where your views will be seen by management